Discussion:
configuring pine for a new server...
Patrick Collins
2008-03-24 19:24:35 UTC
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Hi everyone,

I was previously running my own mailserver and had pine working great,
but have since switched to a new webhost company and decided to have
them handle my mail.. I tried adjusted my pinerc file but my it says
"authentication failed" each time I enter in my password... The
hosting company said they can't support pine because they don't know
anything about it, so I thought I'd write here.

what previously was in my .pinerc file was this sort of thing:

inbox-path={star:993/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=patrick}inbox
default-fcc={star:993/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=patrick}sent-mail

And I changed it to:

inbox-path={mail.denetron.com:993/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=***@collinatorstudios.com}inbox
default-fcc={mail.denetron.com:993/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=***@collinatorstudios.com}sent-mail

When running pine, it asked for my password but then said it could not
authenticate... Yet I could go to the hosting company's webmail page
and login with the password and username fine.

Also, I noticed when I had my own mail server, it would create mbox files like:

read-messages-feb-2007
sent-mail-feb-2007

The webhost I am with uses maildir format, so I am wondering if that's
going to be a problem for pine?

When I log into their webmail, I see the folders:
INBOX
Drafts
Sent
Trash

and it makes me wonder if it's a problem that pinerc has "inbox" in
lowercase? Or if it doesn't matter and that pine will just create
whatever it needs... ?

Thank you.
--
Patrick J. Collins
http://collinatorstudios.com
Patrick Collins
2008-03-24 23:06:50 UTC
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My hunch is that the "/user=" part is wrong. Shouldn't that be something
instead of collinatorstudios.com)
Hi...

Well it turns out that the authentication error wasn't what I thought
it was (unable to connect to server error)-- It's because I was
telling it to save the password to disk, and it apparently is having
some kind of issue "retrying CRAM-MD5 authentication after
Authentication failed."

And I am assuming because I originally had my last mailserver's
password in a .pinepwd file.. Which I believe I created before
compiling. So my question now is, how can I change this password--
when I say save to disk it gives me an error...
--
Patrick J. Collins
http://collinatorstudios.com
Eduardo Chappa
2008-03-25 01:46:53 UTC
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Patrick Collins wrote:

:) And I am assuming because I originally had my last mailserver's
:) password in a .pinepwd file.. Which I believe I created before
:) compiling. So my question now is, how can I change this password--
:) when I say save to disk it gives me an error...

I would suggest that you removed the .pinepwd file and alias pine to

pine -passfile /path/to/your/new/passfile

That should work. Remember that the new file must be created empty before
Pine can save a password in it.
--
Eduardo
http://staff.washington.edu/chappa/pine/
Patrick J. Collins
2008-03-25 02:00:40 UTC
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Post by Eduardo Chappa
I would suggest that you removed the .pinepwd file and alias pine to
pine -passfile /path/to/your/new/passfile
That should work. Remember that the new file must be created empty before
Pine can save a password in it.
Weird... Well I removed the ~/.pinepwd file, and then did "touch
~/.pinepwd"

and then I did pine -passfile ~

Pine launched, and asked for my password, I entered it in, and I got
the same CRAM-5 authorization failed after authentication error... it
keeps asking for the password, I continue putting it in and always after the 3rd
attempt, it works and my inbox is open.... But it appears that it is
not saving to the file, as ~/.pinepwd is still blank after doing that
process.

Patrick J. Collins
http://collinatorstudios.com
Mark Crispin
2008-03-25 02:06:41 UTC
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Post by Patrick J. Collins
Pine launched, and asked for my password, I entered it in, and I got
the same CRAM-5 authorization failed after authentication error... it
keeps asking for the password, I continue putting it in and always after the 3rd
attempt, it works and my inbox is open....
Ask your server administrator why CRAM-MD5 authentication is advertised,
but not accepted, by your server. That is the underlying problem which is
causing your problem. Your server has a bug.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
Patrick J. Collins
2008-03-25 05:00:50 UTC
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Ask your server administrator why CRAM-MD5 authentication is advertised, but
not accepted, by your server. That is the underlying problem which is causing
your problem. Your server has a bug.
Thank you-- You are right, they found the error and now it all works
perfect.

Patrick J. Collins
http://collinatorstudios.com

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